On your ski boot, there will be a 3 digit number on the outside or inside heel of one or both of your boots. The weight allows you to just flick it around, while the shape gives it the ability to smear, pivot, or slip through a turn. Do you need metal? Thanks so much for the feedback! Psyched you're already back on snow! So in the end I feel that my current ski is holding me back. I guess the Enforcer 104 is slightly better off-piste? I'm a fairly big guy 6'2" about 210lbs depending on the apre the night before. Love your review videos. For that dual-coast one-ski quiver, the 95-100 underfoot range is pretty awesome. Like the Bent 120 and 100. SE. Felt a little chatter on the hard pack at times but they were better than i thought they would be on fast groomers. Stowe opens this Friday, so we're not far behind you Arguably a bit much for the terrain park, but we've seen some of Fischer's athletes ripping this thing in the park, which is a nod to its playful nature and versatility. The Rustler 9, which is quite similar, is actually a little more maneuverable because it uses more pronounced tip and tail rocker. Head is another company focusing on delivering high-end performance in a lightweight package. Have fun! Hope that helps! Jim, Hi Jim! This time, we're doing the same thing, but we're looking at 100 mm skis! I'd look to those and see if something strikes you! Mindbender 108 (99 is heavy and more directional) is again soft up front but with more weight behind it, it's far more damp. Heck, you could probably even ski blindfolded and with your hands tied behind your back. My new ski should work great off piste, work ok on piste (ideally even if it is icy), turn easily so that the ski teaching will be easy. Pumped to have found your site/reviews. I'm a advanced skier from western Canada. What would be the pros and cons of each, relative to each other and maybe more importantly relative to the Enforcer 100 (which I still will ski)? You sound like a QST skier to me. We're looking for your Mondo Point size, and the conversion is easy! The Rocket Frame titanal laminate supports this theory, with full-metal underfoot and wider metal through the back end of the ski, its all business back there, and quite stiff to flex. I think the combination of them being wider and longer helped a lot. Take a look at the chart below, and if you have any trouble figuring out your size range, scroll past the cart to where we provide more information regarding these categories. It's slightly lighter than a ski with two full sheets of metal, and its willingness to flex naturally under your feet allow you to play around with different turn shapes more easily than a stiffer ski. I don't want some chattery noodles when going fast but I also don't want lifeless sticks that will leave something to be desired for off-piste runs. Then skis got wider. As far as Phantom is concerned, I've found that it's not faster than a good temperature-matched wax, but the permanence of the treatment is appealing to a majority of skiers who don't normally wax. They have a shorter turn radius and lighter tips and tails. Have fun! 177 felt pretty solid, but didn't get to try it on much soft snow for floatation (granted, primary need won't be using it as a pow ski, got the dps for that) Sounds like an Enforcer 104 skier to me. I think you'll find the Sick Day to lack the edge control, and there's a whole lot more options when you go to the 88. It uses their Ultra-Light wood core, which is supported by Innegra Mesh throughout the ski. Can you help? I think the 180ish length is just about right. Adam in Toronto, Hi Adam! Advanced: This might be one of the hardest groups to identify. If you measure a Men's 8/Mondopoint 26, please select 26.5, for example. The Salomon's are great skis for sure, but the partial metal layer in the Blizzards are a step up in terms of performance. Also check out the K2 Pinnacle 95 and the Blizzard Rustler 9 for comparison. I decided this year to upgrade from 10 year old K2 Apache Recon. Who it's For: You like to seek out soft snow, yet you don't want your skis to be so focused on soft snow performance that they're no fun to ski anywhere else. My buddy's kids all have the BC's (aged 12-20 and expert) and love them. Atomic removes a serious amount of material from the center of the ski, which really brings the overall weight down. I'm down to these three: Im looking at the QST 99s, Rustler 10s, and Sky 7HDs but open to suggestions. I'm trying to decide on a ski to demo and possibly buy for next season. For example, East Coast skiers may have visions of skiing wide open powder fields, but the reality is that 9/10 theyll have to navigate tight trees before finding their 100 yard straight shot of glory. You could, however, argue that the Bonafide just accepts skier input a little more easily than the MX 99. Here goes! I really like the Ti but can't find them in Canada. You probably spend a lot of time on firm snow, but want to be able to venture into soft snow conditions without getting bogged down. Nordica Enforcer 100, Fischer Ranger 102 FR, Blizzard Rustler 10. What do you think? I currently ride a set of Volkl Deacon 76, and I love the speed and turning ability of themon groomed runs and ice. I'm looking at a bunch of skis in the 90-100 cm range. A stiffer overall flex pattern compared to the Ranger 98 Ti above, which is going to make the ski very responsive to skier input. They're a bit more user-friendly than the Mantra, but a bit better on-trail than the QST. Other hints that you're looking at the Mondo Point and not the BSL would be if it looks something like "270/275" or if the number is found on the bottom of the boot. It doesn't have huge amounts of rocker or early taper, so its shape isn't totally focused for soft snow, but it still performs really well even in deep conditions. I'm guessing you'll ultimately choose another ski, but I also think you'd enjoy finding out what the new Mantra is all about. I'm willing to give up a little of that speed on the groomers for something that I can turn /float a little while in powder. The Bent Chetler 100 is another twin tip ski with a focus on soft snow performance. Because ski bindings are so precise, it's crucial to have them mounted to the BSL and not the Mondo Point. I am 55yo, 57 and 165lbs. I own an 87 and use it pretty much every day here in Stowe. High-speed skiers who love a challenge, whether its terrain or snow conditions. Have fun! Youve made it to the next level in skiing. Hi Tom! Maybe a Tyrolia 13 or Warden 13 would be an alternative. Do you have a suggestion, including length for my size and weight? Firstly, thanks for all the reviews, they have been really great and helped me narrow down my search A LOT for a new pair of skis. It crosses over between different terrain and snow conditions very well, and is a more forgiving ski than those with lots of metal and less rocker, but don't forget about that metal. The most dramatic part of the ski is the amount of splay in the tips. Hope that helps! If you love surfing on fresh snow, but dont want a super-wide ski to do so, the ZX 100 is a fantastic choice. I found a great deal on a pair, just used once for 20% off. The M-Pro is stiff in the tail, so make sure you take that into account as to whether you want that or not. With some tweaks to the 2022 model, skiers get more length options (yay!) At 94 mm underfoot at 180 cm length, it's not that narrow, but it still has great edge grip, especially underfoot. In Stock Now: New 2023 Atomic. Not the same stability and vibration damping as the Enforcer 100 or M5 on firm snow, but it's also no slouch, and is a super fun ski in off-piste terrain. I live in Japan so no shortage of soft snow (but not guaranteed every day either) and have some Majesty Superior for big days and smash around the rest of the time on some Line 2016 Bacons. These skis are very useful and utilitarian, but are also a whole lot of fun. I consider myself a strong intermediate skier on the edge of advanced. I guess the sick days would be more directional but I wanted to hear other peoples opinions, I own both. Black diamond, double black diamond, centuple black diamond, it doesnt even matter. What do you think about those for my needs? Atomic Bent Chetler 100 Reviews: . I'm really torn between the Bent Chetler 100 (180cm) and the Sick Day 104 (179 or 186cm) for a 50/50 one ski quiver mounted with Shifts to be used mostly in the French Alps. Kore 99 probably isn't the way to go, because that ski is actually very stiff. Twice as good as snowboarding, obviously, as we have twice the number of edges. The sick days are harder charging than the sick days. Skiers who value light weight over stability. or Best Offer. If you like skiing switch (backwards) you don't have too many options, especially out of the skis in this comparison article. Rather than snowplow your way down blue squares, youre able to use the shape of your skis to make parabolic or carving turns. However, if you are looking for a charging ski that has no limitations, you would be very happy with either! I'm looking for some advice - I bought my first pair of skis 5 seasons ago as a low-intermediate. Hey SE. I think because of my weight I shouldn't go to the 11 series. Hey SE! Erik, Hi Erik! The Rustler is a bit more of a twin-tip shape, so the tail releases easier than the Pinnacle. Versus the Ranger 99, it's certainly got more of a carving/on-trail persona, but isn't quite the floater or crud-buster that the Fischer certainly is. SE, Hi Dave, Chances are if youre the type of skier who typically skis with a ski-mentor or a friend whos job it is to get you down the mountain. In addition, the fiberglass laminates keep things energetic and poppy throughout, while the PU is a stable and damp material. I have demoed the Enforcer 100s our west and really liked them a lot! Dennis Ranalter calls it "the perfect all-rounder". What would your recommend? Instead of fitting the ski by height, the skis that we carry are fit by weight. Really honest and good ideas. The all-new Atomic Maverick 100 Ti is a strong and powerful ski that takes over where the Vantage series of skis left off. I demoed the Salomon QST 99 in the 188 length last weekend and really enjoyed them. It also is a great ski for someone who values maneuverability and quickness over speed, as you mentioned. The Atomic Backland Bent Chetler was one of the most sought-after skis in this lineup. Can you describe some of the nuances between these? It uses a fair amount of rocker and early taper, which like a lot of skis in this article is more pronounced in the tip than the tail. No worries, our owner's name is David, so we'll just pretend that what you meant That said, you don't have to be a park-style skier to enjoy it, it's kind of like a Ranger 98 Ti that's more focused on soft snow performance. Who it's For:Anyone that wants a fun, versatile, playful all mountain ski that will perform well in a variety of terrain and snow conditions will really enjoy skiing the Origin 96. You notice it most in the completion phase of the turn where the 100 likes to hold on until the end while the 104 is more playful. If the number you see has a decimal, then youre probably looking at your Mondo Point size which isnt accurate enough to use when mounting bindings. I'm looking for something that supports conditions as one finds them on the doable on a random ski week (I fly in, so I don't get to take advantage of powder days except by coincidence with my travel days) out west, with the limitation of a one-ski quiver. Thanks, Rudi, Hi Rudi! Who it's For: Aggressive skiers who prefer carving over smearing, slipping, or pivoting turns. Does the metal in the kastle or blizzard's make those a more appropriate choice? not sure on what length to go with either. It's light enough so that you can handle the longer ski, I'd think. Will, Hi Will! The tips and tails also have a softer flex pattern compared to the portion of the ski underfoot, which helps boost forgiveness in off-piste terrain. While its got the dual-metal laminate, its more active and engaging than a lot of skis in this grouping. I'm not a super charger who likes to go really fast all the time, but I enjoy pushing it hard a couple of turns. But perhaps Ive got enough weight to get the 184 Mantra to react just as well? Whats your thoughts? 1 for deep powder days in resort and 1 for all mtn. The longer turn shape of the Stance 102 is mostly to blame, as this straighter-cut ski loves to be used directly in the fall line. Have fun! Atomic Bent Chetler 100s vs. Salomon QST 99 I'm on the search for some all mountain skis to fill the void of not skiing during the summer months. Overall, Bent Chetler 100s are extremely fun over the entire mountain. I think the Fischer offers a bigger difference, and for different conditions, I think that's a good thing, especially if you're looking for more playfulness and mogul management. I was thinking the Nordica Enforcer 100, though maybe I should be looking at the 93. I want something quicker and lighter. The Sky is a bit soft in my opinion, but a great, quick turner for those tight trees. Skill wise, youll be able to control your speed with snowplowing, wedging, or forming a pizza. The QST 99s I have is 174cm.I am just wondering if there's something in between the Mantra and the QST. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. That said, the QST 98 is considerably better as a carver on groomers. I found the M5, precise and easy to bend into shorter carving turns but lacking float due to the shallower rocker profiles. Is the 13 sufficient or should I go for a 16? Not overly stiff, but stable enough to support a heavier skier. I'm about the same size as you, maybe a bit heavier, and I found those two models and sizes to be just about right. Built with a blend of poplar and beech wood stringers, these skis have power to start with. The Rustler 10 is to the Bonafide as the Ranger 102 FR is to the Ranger 98 Ti. Trying to decide between the BC 100 and QST 98 and Im torn. I like them, but am interested in trying something quicker and more maneuverable, less of a thigh burner when I'm not on game early season. It won't have the same tank-like feel of some of the heavier skis we're looking at in this article, but manufacturers are making strides in retaining stability and vibration damping while bringing down the overall weight. I'm thinking that I should be looking at something in the 90-100mm range, with a bit of flex to it. The boot sole length is the literal length from toe to heel of that boot, measured in millimeters. I use a pair of Nordica Soul Rider 87's for skiing with my kids, but that's on the extreme of maneuverability. I just sold my Bonafides and I am looking for something more playful. It's really quite versatile for a wide range of terrain, and also performs a little better at slower speeds than the M5, so might work better when going slow with the family. Too short, and you'll find your forearm angled downward. SE. Those were both near the top of my list, along with possibly the Kore. This clean carver loves to be on edge. I do love pure powder but I'm not as experienced in that yet, I think someday when I retire I'll buy a powder-dedicated ski for those times. SE, Hi, SE. This boosts its soft snow performance and helps the ski float in soft snow, despite only having a 95 mm waist. Then rocker technology came along, and, long story short, theres way more room for preference and interpretation than ever before. But currently I'm looking for a one-ski quiver that will be maneuverable enough for some quick tight turns but will also let me float a bit in the soft stuff and hold a carving turn or two at mid-speed when required. Very smooth, strong, and stable, so if that's what you're into, I'm not going to steer you away, especially since I'm a huge fan of the ski as well. We were somewhat expecting the Kore 99 to be on the stiff side, but probably not at the very end. Taking design input from pro freerider, Chris Benchetler, Atomic has created a pow-skiing masterpiece capable of turning the mountain into your playground. I would describe me a as a good skier and I can go down all trails without issues. I skied the 185 last year and found it decent stability-wise, but not amazing. I like to charge hard and make nice big super-g turns, but also looking for a ski a bit more agile in the moguls and trees. It comes in a 187, and I don't think you'll overski it like the Pinnacle. Hey SE! SE, Thanks for this great article and all your helpful reviews. Still will do both tho. The 169 Enforcer 100 would probably be more akin to the 172 Atomic. This is what used to be referred to as Expert until rocker skis came along and let experts go back to over head ski lengths. It's not the most powerful or more precise ski on firm snow, but it's no slouch either. 15 different all-mountain skis in the 90 mm waist width range. They're solid bindings. SE. For my curiosity, where would the Head Kore 93, presumably in 188, come in? Weight Weight single piece (g) / Size (cm) : 1800 / 184 Skill Level Beginner Advanced Expert BENT CHETLER 120 What do you think? Free shipping. Please note: We are unable to mount Look Pivot bindings because the actual boot is required due to the extremely small amount of adjustment in the heel. Hi Kovi! Hi Jon! Will spend enough time on groomers to not completely forsake having fun there as well. More weight means the skis will feel softer, and shorter. Luke Koppa on the Line Sick Day 104, Telluride Ski Resort, CO. (photo by Patrick Sinnott) . What would you recommend? Im trying to decide between QST and Enforcer. It's not the most demanding ski, but it's also not the easiest. Rather than snowplow your way down blue squares, youre able to use the shape of your skis to make parabolic or carving turns. It loves to make quick movements and really reacts well to skier input. Hello, great article! SoooooAtomic Chetler 100 and Blizzard Rustler 10 have come on my radar and I can get good deals on both right now. I am super-impressed with the versatility of that ski from moguls to trees and groomers and powder. The question then would be what the right place to go might be. I would probably put a shift binding on these - I know the enforcers are heavy but I am currently also touring on a heavy setup - to be able to use them for small tours that are mainly focussed on the downhill. The Enforcer is the most all-mountain and versatile ski of the lot. I've skied it here in VT in about a foot and a half of light, dry snow, and it floated great, so unless you're in bottomless, I don't think the slight flotation advantage of the Rustler is worth the sacrifice, especially when it comes to on-trail performance. Thanks, Hi Brian! It's about as versatile and friendly of a ski that you'll find. Proving once again that a good ski is a good ski. Have fun! 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